In this episode with Skylar Tatu, we discuss the benefits of practicing yoga on a deep level. She provides you with her own experience on using yoga for stress and anxiety, and how yoga has changed her own life. We discuss the many anxieties that may be present in one’s life, from family to relationships and even social media. Sky breaks down what a “bliss state” is and why you would want to go there. The somatic work that Sky brings into her practice is something that is underutilized and not talked about enough. The power of the body and using body movement to strip negativity away and reduce stress anxiety, and even pain in the mind is amazing. My Favorite quote about control from this episode, “Control is mirrored in lack of control.”
Sky’s email: Skylar.Tatu@gmail.com
Ben Florsheim 00:09
All right, everybody. Welcome back to the Mind Body Code podcast. My name is Ben Florsheim, and I’m your host and today I’m joined with Skyler tattoo and super happy to have her on the podcast today. Known Skyler for man. I think it’s been like over 10 years now. I moved to Reno in 2010. And I think probably met you right around that time.
Skylar Tatu 00:29
I was thinking about that before I came over here. And it’s been at least eight years for sure. Yeah, it’s
Ben Florsheim 00:36
been a while. Yeah, yeah, I saw about 2012. Somewhere in there. Okay. Yeah. And then, pretty cool. Skyler ended up marrying one of my really good friends as well, a few years back. So yeah, like I said, happy to have you here. So wanted to have Skylar on the podcast today to tell us a little bit about what she’s got going on. When she’s doing some somatic work with the body. She’s doing stuff with stress and anxiety. So, Skylar, could you give us a little bit about your background? And then we can kind of dive right in?
Skylar Tatu 01:09
Yeah, absolutely. So I got into yoga, it was probably about 12 years ago, and I was going through a really, really difficult time in my life. And so I found this yoga DVD. And I started doing this video with this lady. And, you know, she explained the benefits in a way that I was like, I want some of what she has, she was, you know, she was a woman who was in recovery, as am I will say that right there. And so yoga really brought me some peace in a time where there was a lot of chaos going on. So, you know, long story short, that is the path that I have been on for the last 12 years or so. And I recently started to teach others some of the things that I’ve learned and I have gotten into a yoga therapy program. So learning really how to take all of these tools and these things that I’ve learned over the years and apply them. apply them to so many situations, whether it’s like physical rehabilitation of an injury, whether it’s stress and anxiety, which is what I really focus on, because I dealt with that so intensely. So that that’s what I’m up to these days.
Ben Florsheim 02:34
Awesome. The the yoga therapy, is that something that you’re involved in for yourself? Or? Or is it the? Or is that something that you’re bringing to clients that are coming to see you.
Skylar Tatu 02:46
So yoga therapy, it’s a, it’s a program that I’m in, so it’s kind of an intense program, it’s gonna take a while for me to finish it. I just got my 500 hour, and through this same school that I’m doing the therapy program through. So I mean, really, I’m using it on myself. Everything that I’m learning, my clients are getting as
Ben Florsheim 03:10
well. Awesome. Yeah. When you say that the the, what comes to mind for me when I was in my nature connected coaching program, it was about 500 hours in that. And I was in a cohort of about 14 to 17 people, I think we had a few drop offs throughout the year. But we all kind of brought stuff to that, right? We were all kind of in this nature connected coach to become nature connected coaches, but we were also kind of getting some coaching done on ourselves to each other through the program. So it’s kind of like a double edged sword, but you know, kind of killing two birds with one stone.
Skylar Tatu 03:43
You really got to take a look at yourself. Yeah.
Ben Florsheim 03:49
Yeah. And I, I, it’s interesting, right, because as a coach, and through my experience, like being a coach, I’ve always had to have a coach to I don’t know what your thoughts are on that. But if I’m not coachable, like, how can I expect to coach other people? You
Skylar Tatu 04:05
know, I have always had mentors. Well, let me let me back up. Ever since I, like I got into recovery, and I had to start to stop doing some of those destructive things I was doing, I’ve always had to go to somebody else for guidance and direction. And also to, you know, to uplift me, you know, kind of a cheerleader. So I absolutely think it’s important for everybody to have that kind of a relationship with somebody.
Ben Florsheim 04:35
How does it feel to be on the other side of that and to be uplifting clients and be kind of that mentor for others now in your life?
Skylar Tatu 04:42
Oh, it’s the best. I love hearing from somebody say like, yeah, just a few days of doing these things, and I’m so much more calm and peaceful. And you know, just hearing that from a client just makes my my heart sing. It’s a great thing.
Ben Florsheim 05:00
clients that are talking about being calm and peaceful. I’ve, you know, I’ve been looking at your thread on Facebook and you know, the stress and anxiety and talking a lot about that and getting a lot of traction with that. What would you say? Is your kind of ideal client? Or what are you seeing in the clients that are coming in to see you?
Skylar Tatu 05:19
ideal client would to answer that part of the question. I really I love working with people who are like, lost, you know, and it sounds really bad. But I love working with people who were like, check it out, I have this problem, and I have no idea what to do about it. I’m dedicated to you know, somebody who’s like, okay, just tell me what to do. And I’m gonna do it. Because those are the people that really get the results. And, you know, it’s just, like I said, I just love watching people grow.
Ben Florsheim 05:52
When I hear you say, lost, what comes up for me? Because I think of people that are stuck. And but when you say lost, I think it’s kind of around the same lines. I think of somebody that’s lost, or somebody that’s stuck, right? They they come to us, and they know that they’re lost, or they know that they’re stuck. I feel like there’s so many people out there that are lost, and they don’t even know it.
Skylar Tatu 06:13
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, somebody asked me, I also do Reiki, I’m a Reiki practitioner, if somebody had asked me like, so what do you say to somebody who doesn’t believe in it? And I said, nothing. You know, um, it’s hard. It’s hard to work with people who aren’t open to being worked with, you know, so the people that really get the results are the ones that are, you know, ready to take some direction. And okay, so you did this? What do I do?
Ben Florsheim 06:46
Yeah, I, you know, it’s funny that you bring that up, I have. I have so many clients that come in, and I, I, you know, I wonder if it’s the same for you, but come in, and after that, like, initial consultation, like don’t even hear from them again, it’s almost like you said, you were sober, I’m sober as well, you know, the, you know, the viewers out there, listeners out there know that and, you know, having that sponsee that, like, you know, calls you the first time and then you never hear from him again.
Skylar Tatu 07:11
Yeah, so we have a lot of experience already. Right. And then we get into the coaching world, and it’s like nothing new.
Ben Florsheim 07:19
Yeah, it’s like, watering these peoples nicely. Come on, like, you know, you’re so close, like, he walked through the door, like, just, you know, it’s so
Skylar Tatu 07:27
funny. I had to get into a 12 step program for that. wanting people to be what I thought they should be, and oh, I had to, I had to do a lot of work around that.
Ben Florsheim 07:40
Yeah, we’re taught, you know, patience and tolerance, right?
Skylar Tatu 07:43
Absolutely. Some of us have to do a little extra work to get there.
Ben Florsheim 07:49
along the lines of like, the stress and anxiety, are you seeing any parallels through the work that you’re doing or, you know, things that are working for clients, you know, modalities or things within the yoga that you really find that are working, that you kind of are passionate about.
Skylar Tatu 08:06
So what I’m finding, and a lot of these things that I’m that I’m doing are things that I hadn’t done until I got into my yoga teacher training. But one of the most powerful tools that there is, is the breath. So, you know, there’s, there’s like all this science around it, right? I don’t want to get too deep into it. Unless you
Ben Florsheim 08:30
want me we can totally go there. Let’s do it.
Skylar Tatu 08:34
Okay, the reason that the breath is so instrumental in dealing with stress and anxiety is because we have this nerve, and it’s called the vagus nerve, and it goes from the brainstem, and it goes all the way down the body, and it touches the heart, it gets on the lungs, it’s the digestion aisle, it affects the digestive tract, as well. So it goes from our brainstem all over our body, and our body is constantly communicating with the brain through this nerve. So when the breath gets really short and choppy, and, you know, it’s like hard to catch our breath, that nerve is telling our brain that something’s wrong. Like we got to either run or we got to freeze or something. So when the breath is slow and steady, that’s that’s how we breathe when we’re calm, right? And so there’s this constant communication going on, and when the breath is slow and steady, the brain is getting the message that everything’s good, we can rest and rest and digest as what we refer to it, right.
Ben Florsheim 09:44
The the breath so and, you know, we talked about that in you know, meditation as well like trying to focus on the breath. And I’m curious, you know, I, I don’t know if it’s similar to meditation, which you’re talking about. And my feeling and experience with meditation is like, you know, there’s a lot of practices out there that are saying, let you know try not to think about anything. And like for me, the more I try not to do something, the more like it just like overwhelms me. Yeah, for sure.
Skylar Tatu 10:17
So my suggestion. And what I’ve done when I started to dip into the world of meditation is I did guided meditations. And the other tool that I was thinking of that is super powerful, and not only stress and anxiety, but they’re actually using it in the military, for veterans with PTSD. It’s super powerful and healing all kinds of stuff. But it’s Yoga nidra. And so that translates to yogic sleep. And basically is a guided meditation where you get to like, lay down and get all comfy and cozy and grab a blanket. And you’re, it’s, it’s like a certain way that it goes, each time you do it, there’s a process. And you go through the layers of the body, and this guided meditation, and you end up where the body is, like asleep, but the mind is still awake and active. And so it’s just really, it’s really amazing. It’s really deeply relaxing. And so what I’m noticing, it’s like, when do we ever just relax without doing something to busy your mind. Like, when I relax, a lot of times, I’m like, I gotta read a book, or I gotta like, scroll through Facebook, not relaxing at all, by the way, for watching, maybe, you know, so and this practice of yoga, nidra and meditation as well. It gives the body a chance to, it gives the body a chance to, you know, all the cells to regenerate it, like I guess. So what I’ve heard through studies done is that one hour of yoga nidra equals four hours of deep sleep.
Ben Florsheim 12:04
Wow. So the real so the relaxation, even though it’s not necessarily in the mind, like the relaxation of the body is really kind of like soothing. Everything.
Skylar Tatu 12:14
Yeah, so it’s just allowing the body to completely rest. And the mind kind of just goes into a place where you have awareness, but like, it’s kind of a blissful feeling,
Ben Florsheim 12:29
is it? Is it like the mind kind of follows the body, in that, in that, in that experience, or are you just kind of letting the mind kind of wander a little bit.
Skylar Tatu 12:37
So what you’re doing, we’ll go into a little bit of the Eastern way that we, we look at it. So in the yogic perspective, there are five layers of the being, okay, we have our physical body, we have our intellectual body, we have our energy body. So the physical body is our, it’s our skin, it’s our bones, it’s our organs, it’s nourished by food. And then we have our energetic body, which is the breath, and it’s like all of the metabolic things that are going on that we can’t see that it’s keeping us alive, right, it’s necessary. And then we have the mental body, so our thinking and then we have the wisdom body. So this is where we get our personality is where we get our morality, our sense of right and wrong. And then at the core is what’s called the Ananda Maya kosha. So it’s the soul, you know, a lot, a lot of people would call it the soul and the yogic traditions, it’s called the bliss body. And so what’s happening in yoga nidra is you’re being guided through those layers. So you focus on all of the parts of the body, and then you start to focus on the breath. And then you start to do some things with the mind, you know, do some visualizations and stuff. And at the end of the yoga nidra, you end up in contact with that bliss body. And that which is really the ultimate goal of yoga is to get in contact with that inner being. And it can be kind of woowoo for people, right? Or especially people who are really like scientific mind and stuff. But um, you know, the self has been around for 1000s of years and we’re, we’re starting to kind of catch up in the Western world, kind of like proving these things scientifically.
Ben Florsheim 14:36
I’m, I’m kind of intrigued with the yoga because that I’ve I’ve been to yoga probably a few handfuls of times, and been to a few different classes, teachings and you know, I’ve really enjoyed it and I’m thinking back to a couple of these were like maybe it was a deep stretch, teaching and and I’m thinking man I was in so much pain, like how can I even get to that state? And so my question is like the different teachings or different classes within yoga? Do they all fall in line with that same principle of, you know, getting to the bliss state?
Skylar Tatu 15:15
So there are so many different paths. And well, I think, essentially, yeah, most of them, the path that I follow is, is Raja Yoga. And so in Raja Yoga, it’s the translates to a royal yoga. And so basically, what you’re trying to, to get to is that, we call it union. Right, so yoga actually translates to Union. And so what we’re trying to unify is our mind and our body and our spirit. And so we’re like, trying to be one whole being right. Like in the Western world, we’re constantly trying to separate them, like, you know, take something to make the body feel better. And we completely leave out the mind part or vice versa. And it’s really like, it’s kind of like ancient psychology. These ancient Yogi’s, they really figured out the inner workings of the mind. And so, you know, if you go to India and study with a guru, which I have never done, but I think it would be amazing. You know, they will teach you how to get to that and our being, and it’s really, you know, getting to the anxiety and stress factor. A lot of that comes from our attachments to things and our aversions like, I really like that I really need that, or I really don’t like that, I really don’t want it. You know, and we can get really caught up in that. But those are all workings of the mind. Right? Like, that’s just our judgments. So, yeah, the ultimate goal, I think of all of the paths are to get to that inner being, there’s just different ways,
Ben Florsheim 17:10
as you were talking, brought up that yoga and the meaning buying into the union. And then the stress and anxiety just thinking about us, especially in our Western culture, how we’re stretched so many different ways. And we stretch ourselves in so many of you know, social media, news outlets, friends, school, you know, family, all of these different things that cause and create that stress and anxiety. And I was thinking about one of the questions that I saw that you posted on Facebook, you know, something along the lines of like, Can we get rid of stress and anxiety? Or is it something that we have to deal with? And I’m curious what your take on that is, and you know what your thoughts are on it.
Skylar Tatu 17:51
So I started to do a little bit of research around this. Because I do have that analytical mind. And I want to see proof and facts. What I have noticed is that it seems like a problem that a lot of people feel like we’re just never going to get away from. There are people who I would say, or just like us, you know, they were doing too many things. They were neurotic, in their own words, anxiety driven neurotics, and they became enlightened beings and some of the most influential spiritual leaders in recent history. So, you know, I posted this picture of Gandhi. And he was a lawyer. He was a lawyer, and he walked out of his very first court, he walked out of his very first court appearance because he froze up with a panic attack and he couldn’t speak away. I didn’t know that that Gandhi had major anxiety and fear of public speaking. And you know, and then he became what he became and so you know, there are people who have you know, they’ve completely devoted themselves to freeing themselves of these problems now there’s, there’s us you know, we have to work we have to take care of families more probably never gonna become like Gandhi. Right? But what I was really trying to get to is like, you know, as a coach, you know, like, if you don’t think something’s possible, it’s never gonna happen, you know, but if you have that hope it’s there’s a much bigger chance that you’re gonna get to your goal.
Ben Florsheim 19:39
I was thinking as you were talking the you know, with the Gandhi analogy and and how he was a lawyer, and we have all of these things and like the words that came to mind were rebuilding in this rebirth almost. And like stripping these things away, whether it’s social media attachment to phone attachment to, you know, people around Round us things places, you know, and Gandhi did the extreme and like, stripped all of that stuff away. And I’m thinking about, like, What does or is it even possible to do like, the minor amount of that? Because I would imagine like, when you first start stripping those things away, like the anxiety probably skyrockets. And then like, there’s this kind of rebuilding and rebirth that probably has to happen to, like, get you to that more enlightened state, like, like you were talking about.
Skylar Tatu 20:28
So stripping away things, there’s, there’s the really strict paths, right where you are and everything and you go meditate in a cave, and that’s your life, you know, and
Ben Florsheim 20:44
yeah, until you brought back from the world
Skylar Tatu 20:49
that only does good for the one person right? And then what good are they in the world? So um, you know, it’s so funny. I was I was watching ROM das actually documentary last night, I just because he’s one of the people that I started to look into, because, like, ROM, das was a psychologist, he was a professor at Harvard, and then he went to India, and, you know, he became, I believe an enlightened being on this on this earth. But he described himself as being a driven anxious, neurotic. So, but he, you know, he went to India, and he studied with a guru for seven months, I guess he also spent seven years heavily doing psychedelics. So he, but then he quit doing that when he went to India, I think that when we start to strip things away, I think that the people who who end up on that path are people who are really suffering her, her like me, you know, I’m definitely not gonna say that I’m some like guru or something. But, you know, I am definitely on this path of non attachment. And I found that I have so much more peace. And you know, I haven’t like, money is a hard one, right? Like, I, we have to have money, but it brings a lot of a lot of suffering for people. That really does. And it’s been something I’ve had to work through, personally, this money mindset, and like, you know, I used to think that if, if you had a lot of money, you must have had to do something really horrible to get it. And, you know, I’ve worked through that. And, you know, now I’m like, okay, it’s hard to struggle financially in this world. But it’s okay. You know, it’s that attachment. Ultimately, it’s an attachment to how I look to others.
Ben Florsheim 22:55
How do you find yourself detaching
Skylar Tatu 22:57
detaching from money specifically,
Ben Florsheim 23:02
or in general?
Skylar Tatu 23:04
So it started, this whole path of detachment really started with me learning to detach from people. And I was in some pretty toxic relationships, and my past, all of them were pretty toxic. And I was extremely codependent. You know, I mentioned I had to go to a 12 step program for that. And, you know, I really had to learn to love myself enough to detach from people who are toxic, or people, I don’t want to say people who are toxic people who were, you know, doing a lot of things that brought me a lot of suffering, that really affected me. And, you know, so one, somebody asked me this question, actually one of my, one of my mentors and air quotes, and she asked me, like, why is this person’s life more important than yours? Well, because I was literally I was dying to try to help this person get through their problems. And so like, what good does it do for me to destroy my life, you know, trying to help somebody that doesn’t want help, you know, so my, my journey really started with that, you know, just really starting to love myself, no matter no matter what’s going on around me and kind of getting a connection with that inner being we were talking about earlier, and like all of the stuff on the outside it’s just it’s just external stuff, you know. So like so we’re I was constantly reaching for things to try to make me feel better. And so it’s like just peeling the layers of an onion you know, letting go of this bad habit letting go of that toxic relationship, letting go of this attachment to food every time I’m feeling stressed, you know, stressed and anxious because that was a That’s a hard one to
Ben Florsheim 25:02
I think we’re getting into like destructive habits, I think is how you put it in, you know, some of the work that you’ve put together. That was what I was reading was the destructive habits. And from what I’m hearing the destructive habits come from, like this inherent need to, it’s not necessarily to help others, but it’s like to almost, like, do something that does not put us on the forefront. And then like, in turn is making us feel better, but is destructive at the same time. Yeah.
Skylar Tatu 25:37
Whole codependency thing. Yeah, specifically, and really, isn’t that just a need to control? You know, that’s what I found? Like, if you can just do what I think you’re supposed to be doing, then I’ll be okay. We’ll all be okay. It’s kind of all, you
Ben Florsheim 25:51
know, it all comes down to control I would imagine, right? Like, I mean, we’re talking about food, we’re talking about drugs, talking about alcohol timer relationships, you know, some form of control, which is mirrored and lack of control.
Skylar Tatu 26:06
Yeah, I love how you just put that. Yeah, we want to control everything, we want everything to be in a nice, pretty little box. So we can feel comfortable. And like we’re good and secure.
Ben Florsheim 26:22
So can you run us through? What a what a session with you might kind of look like?
Skylar Tatu 26:29
Yeah, yeah. So on the one on sessions, I we do an intake. And so it’s important to get an idea of where a client is at mentally, physically, and energetically, you know, I take in that energetic part. And people who are coming in with stress and anxiety, usually, or have the high energy, you know, they got too much going on, and they need to bring it down a notch. And so we’ll take a look at what they have going on. And I will get with them. And I will start to first of all, it’s it’s about what they need, right. So like if they’re, if they’re having physical pain and tension, and we’ll work on that, if they’re just like, I just want to know how to calm down, then we’ll do some practices to work on that. And it’s the cool thing is, is that stuff that they can do at home. So, you know, like you, you are very aware of this that like the session, it’s kind of like a band aid, right? Where the real transformation comes in. It’s like doing the stuff consistently.
Ben Florsheim 27:40
Yeah, I would, I would agree 100%. All of I would, I like to say all of my sessions, but a high percentage of my sessions, we’re trying to get to a point of making a plan. Right, like we’re, you know, spending a little bit of time on what the issue is, you know, talking about how it’s relating, you know, within life, and, you know, how, how does that person want to feel, you know, what is that? What does that life look like in that new feeling and that new body? And, and how can you practice that, you know, once you leave the door here, and I really like to have those clients, you know, continue to reach out to me, whether it’s via text message, or whatever, in between sessions, you know, to kind of celebrate the points, like, you know, like, I like to call them, or, you know, if there’s a stumbling block to like, Hey, you know, what we talked about isn’t really working, and then, you know, trying to make, you know, small changes, you know, to figure out what is going to work. You know, when I think of like trauma, or you know, trauma that causes stress and anxiety, right, I’m not a therapist, we’ve talked, you know, we talked about those kind of before we started the podcast, you know, and what’s in my realm and what’s not in my realm, you know, if I have somebody that’s diagnosed trauma, you know, diagnosed anxiety that comes in as getting outside help, you know, I can’t treat that trauma, but what I can do is I can, I can teach, and we can come up together with, you know, things that can help kind of divert the trauma. So once you see, you know, kind of feel the onset of that trauma coming on, you know, coming up with, you know, diversion tactics. You know, because if you’re at school with your kid trying to have, you know, school night or whatever it is, and you know, you’re experiencing some trauma, like, you need to be present, like, what can you do in that moment to kind of help get you out of it?
Skylar Tatu 29:36
Yeah, I mean, there are some tools. Hydration and ventilation is something that that I teach, you know, because I do have so many people have PTSD, you know, or have at least experienced trauma. But yeah, you know, it sounds like we have some similar tools in our tool belt, or one that I teach is feel it in your body. Really, like we got to get aware of where it’s being held in our body, and you know where I in the teachings that I’m coming from? And when we can get aware of that, then we can take our attention elsewhere and feel it, not feel it somewhere else in the body. Right. So that’s kind of like a diversion tactic.
Ben Florsheim 30:18
Yeah, yeah, I think I think kind of what what you’re kind of talking about, and something that I was taught was, you know, working with the body, like in a somatic way, where it’s like, Hey, we’re experiencing this trauma, where are we experiencing? And then like, okay, we’re gonna start, you know, rubbing our fingers together, we’re gonna feel our feet planted at the floor, you know, we’re gonna lay down, we’re gonna feel the carpet, like trying to feel something other than, you know, the trauma in that moment. And, you know, I think that’s a great tactic. I think that, you know, body movement, yelling, like, all of those somatic things that we can do with our body can be very, very powerful tools.
Skylar Tatu 30:58
Absolutely. And, you know, there’s a guy. Let’s see, is it Peter Levine or Richard Miller? I think it’s Peter Levine. Okay. So he’s a clinical therapist, and he’s created, he’s created the somatic experiencing program. Have you heard of this one? So, yeah, Google, Peter Levine. If you guys are interested in the somatic experiencing. Yeah. And he, he, he has done a lot of work around this and how, you know, researching how people actually hold trauma in the body. You know, I’ve noticed in some yoga classes and with some people, in certain poses, especially in poses, we’re working on the hips, like people will just start to cry. I don’t know where they you know, and so it’s like, something’s being released in that moment. And it’s
Ben Florsheim 31:50
thinking of warrior poses that one of them maybe,
Skylar Tatu 31:52
well, usually, it’s, um, pigeon sleeping on the ground, and you’re really getting into the hip,
Ben Florsheim 32:01
deep hip flexor. Okay. I’m not a full on yoga, but I know some classes. Now, and I’m really intrigued by the cinematic stuff. I mean, the somatic experience, like I said, I think is, is so underutilized. Right. And the, I think it’s so awesome, what you’re doing Schuyler, because a lot of those young, you know, I’m not gonna say every single one of them, but a majority of those yoga classes that I’m in, it’s a 45 minute to an hour get and get the stretchers in and kind of leave, right, there’s not much like teaching of like, why are we doing this? Like, what is the goal? You know, what are we going to get out of it? Right? Like, my experience with yoga, you know, up until recently was to, like, go in, get the, you know, get the stretch, feel better, you know, because I’m, I’m in the gym a lot. And like, you know, tightness is like part of my life. So if I can do anything, they get me not as tight and sore, you know, sign me up. But like I said, I think what you’re doing is, you know, it’s just not talked about, there’s not enough people out there, you know, talking about what you’re talking about.
Skylar Tatu 33:11
And yeah, you know, I did the group yoga class thing. And it’s fun, you know, I like to get in there and teach a vinyasa class, and then you know, the pandemic. And so, so that went out the window. But you know, what I really found is that, like, I just really love working with people one on one, because that’s where you get the real transformation. There’s only so much you can teach to a group of people, but when you have somebody with you, and it’s just you and them, and you’re just there to hold space, like it’s just so amazing. The healing that can happen just from being there and holding space, you know, we don’t even have to do anything, we just talk. So yeah, I just I love it so much.
Ben Florsheim 33:56
I was thinking back to my nature connected coaching. And when we had, we had a therapist come in and teach. She, you know, she she taught the trauma lesson, and she was she was very in touch with somatic, she does a ton of somatic work. And we did a group somatic exercise, and we all did a stretch or a movement with the body. And we all had to mimic, you know, we went in a circle, somebody would do it, and we all had to mimic it. And so each person had their own, you know, stretch or movement that was going to ground them. And so kind of getting to see like, everybody else’s different experience and like what they brought to the table. I can’t exactly remember what I did, but one person was like, hey, I want to read exercise in their mouth and he literally just screamed at the top of his lungs. And so we all had to scream at the top of our lungs. Yeah, it was it was a very vulnerable thing because it was in a group at you know, group atmosphere right And, you know, not everybody could do all of like, the stretches, or whatever it was so like it, but it was cool, because we were all doing it together.
Skylar Tatu 35:08
You know, it just made me think of one thing that kind of irks me about group classes. Well, it’s not the group classes. But, you know, we go into group classes, and we have, some of us have a tendency to compare, and think that girl can touch your toes, like, I can barely touch my knees, like, you know, and it like, factorizes Our bodies are all different, you know, maybe our chicks just got long arms. So the grip classes can kind of stir up this competition and stuff, which is totally not what
Ben Florsheim 35:44
I think of like, and I, you know, I think of the first couple yoga classes I did, I was like, 14 or 15 years old, my ego got the best of me and I was gonna, I was in the back of the class, and, you know, and then I remember, like, somebody in the class, like, just ripping us, right. And like, like, my ego is just like laughing and like, like, like, you know, what you’re talking about the same thing with the stretches. And like, that is what Yoga is, is being natural being, you know, in a flow state being, you know, letting things go, whatever, you know, if it’s breaking wind, right, like, whatever it is, like being relaxed, and not really, you know, letting my ego get get in the way, like you’re talking about.
Skylar Tatu 36:30
Yeah, for sure.
Ben Florsheim 36:31
I mean, it’s a funny example, but it
Skylar Tatu 36:35
will actually keep people from going to try yoga, they’re afraid that it’s gonna
Ben Florsheim 36:44
go to your natural flow state.
Skylar Tatu 36:47
Natural physiological system.
Ben Florsheim 36:51
So you’re doing a lot of one on one stuff. How How are you seeing clients right now?
Skylar Tatu 36:56
Right now I do see local clients in person.
Ben Florsheim 37:04
So local is here in Reno, Nevada. And so you have so you have an A, you have an in person spot, and then you’ve obviously been doing zooms since the pandemic is zoom, something that you think that you’ll stick with after? I mean, I don’t know what normal looks like. But once we get back to some sense of normalcy,
Skylar Tatu 37:22
yeah, I love zoom. Okay, yeah, it really, it just opens up all kinds of doors to you know, anybody who’s looking to do this kind of work.
Ben Florsheim 37:32
It’s been such a great tool for me, too. It was, it was a little nerve wracking at the beginning. Because, you know, again, with the somatic stuff, right? Like, I want to see what’s going on with that person’s body. I want to see what they’re doing, you know, what they’re fidgeting with what they’re, you know, if they’re holding a fist and things like that, I’m sure you probably set up the camera a little differently. So you can see like, the whole body while they’re doing the movement, especially, you know, if you’re going to be doing yoga with somebody, but sometimes with me, like I’m seeing, you know, like chest up and I’m like, can you scoot back a little bit which is we’re gonna social distance through zoom, but it’s really me just taking a look at the rest of you to see what’s going on. Um, how can people get a hold of you Skyler,
Skylar Tatu 38:14
so they can reach me sky.com so T T two is ta t u and they can email me skyler.ta email@example.com so that’s sky l a r.ta. t you
Ben Florsheim 38:34
my phone for everyone. I will put that all in the notes section as well for this. And Skylar. Hey, thank you so much for being here with us you know hope everybody out there got as much out of this as I did. You know, reach out you know, like I said, I think this you know, the the yoga work mixed in with like, why you know, the why behind it right? I’ve got this, this you know, remember your why on my wall for those of you guys that can’t see it. And you know, Schuyler really brings the why into, you know why we should be doing yoga, why we should be working with the body and how much it can help, you know, relieve some of the stress and anxiety and you know, disconnecting right, we talked about disconnecting and you know what the benefits are, So reach out to Sky